Post by Paddy by Grace on Mar 23, 2011 7:53:12 GMT -7
Things I have learned since becoming Messianic... (this will probably make you angry) Keeps me out of VANITY arguments too!
PART ONE
1. Yahweh gave us 7 festivals to observe. They are the holiest of holidays for the Hebroots Christian. There is no need to follow any other celebrations and traditions created by mankind. Many are based in paganism or foolish explanations, (Groundhog Day). I can honestly say that any holiday is pagan if King Constantine or the Roman Church had anything to do with it AND they have somehow hindged it to Yahweh's word or anything perceived to be holy by Yah's laws or ordinances. What I have learned is that many will be harshly critical of me because I refuse to do Christmas, Easter, Halloween or any other of man's celebrations. They will never give in on their insistance that all Christians should celebrate these days no matter how much I explain where they came from. So I state my personal belief's and let the chips fall where they may. You are 'Protestants" are you not? That means you protest everything the RCC stood for, their doctrines and belief's, (Unless they have changed the definition of Protestant now). Well, WHY ARE YOU DOING CHRISTMAS AND EASTER WHEN THE RCC ESTABLISHED THEM??? If your reading this, you have a computer, google it!
2. I observe all Ten Commandments, not Nine like 97% of Christianity does. If you 97% wish to ignore the 4th commandment and cut and paste verses and word wrangle in order to ignore the true Sabbath, have fun and good luck with that as that is all you have. I really don't understand what all the arguing is about anyway. Yahweh said to OBSERVE and KEEP the Sabbath the same way He did at creation. Again, your are a protestant right? Constantine and the RCC established the Lords day on Sunday, who are you following here? You think that if you Change the name from 'Sabbath' to the 'Lord's Day', that you can pick any day of the week to observe it. I am tired of trying to convince those who do not have ears to hear.
Under Grace not Under Law
I'm under grace now, I'm no longer under the law, so I don't need to keep God's law, the ten commandments.
This is the most popular phrase I keep hearing with regards to the law of God, and keeping the Bible ten commandments. But what is the truth about being under grace and not under the law? Those professing Christians who claim that we no longer need to keep the law of God, ie, the ten commandments, often quote certain verses from the apostle Paul. One of the most popular verses being in Romans 6:14 ..... 'For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.' ..... The problem is that the majority of Christians stop right there and ignore the very next verse which says .....'What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.' ..... Paul could not be any clearer. Does being under grace give us a licence to carry on in sin? GOD FORBID!! Does being under grace mean we can now commit idolatry, adultery, covet, steal, lie, murder? Of course not! Therefore the Bible ten commandments must still be binding upon every living being. Just think for a moment about the cost of sin. Think about what Christ Jesus went through for you because of your sin. Paul confirmed in the strongest language he could say, that being under grace DOES NOT give us licence to carry on living a sinful life and ignore the law of God. So what does this mean? Well, if being under grace does not give us licence to sin, then it means that we must NOT sin, and therefore KEEP the ten commandments, the divine law of God. Do you see that? We are either allowed to carry on sinning under grace, or we are not. And Paul confirms that we are NOT allowed to carry on in sin under grace.
It's interesting that the Christians who proclaim the ten commandments to be abolished always quote the apostle Paul's writings. But the apostle Peter says in 2 Peter 3:15-16 that things Paul wrote about are hard to understand. And this is true if you take what Paul said about the law at face value, because Paul "seems" to suggest that we are no longer under the law of God (the ten commandments) whereas other scripture verses clearly say that we SHOULD still keep the ten commandments. Confusing? But if you are learned in Bible scripture then you will understand that Paul when referring to not being under the law, is not talking about the ten commandments.
If we take in the WHOLE council of the New Testament, it clearly teaches us that being under grace actually demands MORE of us.
Think about it this way; Say you were found guilty of murdering someone, and the law of the land sentenced you to death. Can you "work" your way to freedom? No, because you are under the law and it demands your life. The only way you can be free, is if a judge has compassion on you and pardons you. Let's say that happens; A judge comes along and pardons you. You are now under grace and no longer under the law, which demanded your life. You are free!! Now, do you leave thinking, "I'm free!! I found grace with the judge, I'm free to go and commit more crimes, because I'm now under grace, not under the law!" Of course not. Any person with an ounce of gratitude would now go and KEEP the law the best they could. And anyway, does the law of the land now become void because you found grace from the judge? No, the law still stands. Do you see this truth with regards to being under grace, not under law?
Jesus Christ Himself even confirmed His hatred for this false teaching of being free from His law, and being able to carry on living in sin. In the book of Revelation, He reveals to John His hatred for the teachings (doctrine) of the Nicolaitanes ..... Revelation 2:15 .....'So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.' ..... And what doctrine did the Nicolaitanes teach? They taught that being under grace meant that you could carry on living in sin! Jesus Hates this teaching!
Isaiah 42:21 .....'The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.'
So what does it mean to not be under law? Well, firstly, as we learned in the previous studies, there were two laws. The divine moral law of God, the ten commandments, and the ceremonial laws that were ADDED to the ten commandments because of sin. Those ceremonial laws were taken away by Christ on the cross and we no longer need to keep those laws, as they contained sacrifices, burnt offerings, feast days etc, which pointed to Jesus, as He became our sacrifice. Another way of not being under the law is the fact that those who are in Christ Jesus are now free from the law of sin and death (Romans 8:2). What is the law of sin and death? Is it the ten commandments? Absolutely not. What is our human nature we inherit from Adam and Eve? Sin! And what is the result of sin? Death! (Romans 6:23). That is the basic law of sin and death. But those who are in Christ are now free from that law, because they are under grace, not under the law of sin and death and in Romans 6:23 Paul confirmed that Jesus came to free us from the penalty of sin, which is death. He didn't come to free us from the ten commandments, God's divine, eternal, moral law. He came to free us from sin and death.
Is the Ten Commandments a Righteous Law?
What does it mean to be UN-righteous? Take a look at what Paul said in Romans 1:29-31 .....'Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful.' ..... Look at the things that Paul is linking with unrighteousness. Are these not things which go against the ten commandments, the moral law of God? How could the saying "under grace, not under the law" mean that we no longer need to keep the ten commandments, and yet breaking the ten commandments would be classed as unrighteousness? It just doesn't make sense. And if we take a look at some other verses from Paul, we will see that being under grace DOESN'T mean we no longer need to keep the ten commandments:
Romans 6:1-2 .....'What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?' ..... Again, Paul says in the strongest language he can that being under grace does NOT give us licence to continue living in sin. How can anyone who has truly accepted Christ continue living in open willfull sin? It's not possible. Now take a look at Romans 7:22-25. You will see Paul pointing out two laws. One righteous, spiritual law, the divine moral law of God found in the ten commandments, and a law of the flesh, which is sin. Now he says that he DELIGHTS in the law of God, which he keeps in His heart, but he also sees another law warring against this spiritual law of God, and that "other" law is the law of sin and death! The law of the flesh, which is our natural fallen state inherited from Adam and Eve. And Paul thanks God for FREEING us from this law of sin and death though our Lord, Christ Jesus.
Romans 8:1-2 .....'There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death' ..... To whom is there no condemnation? To those who are IN Christ Jesus, who DO NOT walk after the flesh. What does it mean to walk after the flesh? To willfully sin, and to think there is no problem with sin! So why would it be a problem to continue living in sin? .....Romans 8:7 .....'Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.' ..... So if we continue to be "carnally minded", then we will be at war with the Spirit of God, because we are not subjecting ourselves to the law of God, the ten commandments. And what does it mean to continue to be carnally minded? ..... Romans 8:6 .....'For to be carnally minded is death.'
Romans 6:13 .....'Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.' ..... Without the sacrifice of Christ Jesus, we would have been dead in our sins. There would be no hope of the resurrection and no future for us. But now those of us who are in Christ, are "alive from the dead", which means we should yield our bodies as "instrument of righteousness". How do we yield to righteousness? By walking each day with Christ Jesus and being obedient to God's divine moral law, the ten commandments. Take a look at what Paul said about the divine moral law of God: Romans 7:12 .....'Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.' ..... The divine law of God is holy, just and good. And what did Paul say in another place? ..... Romans 12:9 .....'Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.' ..... Being under grace, we are to hate that which is evil, all sin, and CLING to what is good. What did Paul say is good and just and holy in the previous passage? The law of God!
Revelation 14:12 .....'Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.'
Yes we are under grace, but that doesn't and shouldn't stop us from keeping the law of God found in the Bible ten commandments. We are no longer under the law of sin and death, as Christ Jesus has freed us from this law, the law of the flesh. He paid the full price for our sin, but we should NEVER use His grace as an excuse to carry on living in sin. So the next time you think "Oh I'm under grace not under law", take a look at the WHOLE council of God and think on what Jesus did for you. He gave you a pardon from your death sentence. Are you now going to continue breaking the very law that put you in that death sentence in the first place? Are you going to count the love of Christ so cheaply? May God guide you into His truth about being under His grace.
Ten Commandments and Cermonial Law ONE Law?
Many Christians believe that the Bible ten commandments and the ceremonial laws of Moses are one law, and they were all nailed to the cross along with Christ Jesus. Well, let's look at that Bible verse which mentions the law being nailed to the cross ..... Colossians 2:14 .....'Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.' ..... Now does this verse include the Bible ten commandments? I don't believe it does. Why? There are two reasons why the ten commandments cannot be included in this Bible verse above, and why it is only talking about the ceremonial laws of Moses. First, it says 'blotting out the handwriting of ordinances'. Would Paul simply call the ten commandments, written by the very finger of our Almighty Creator God, 'handwriting of ordinances'? I certainly don't think so. Paul is talking here about the handwriting of ceremonial ordinances that Moses wrote in the 'book of the law', which contained the priestly services, offerings, sacrifices, monthly and yearly sabbaths etc, not the ten commandments written by the finger of God on the stone tablets.
The second and most clear evidence that Paul in Colossians 2:14 is NOT talking about the Bible Ten Commandments is the fact that he said the handwriting of ordinances "were against us". Do we know what laws were against us? Have a good think about this. Were the ten commandments against us, or just the ceremonial laws? If we take a look in the book of Deuteronomy, we can find out the truth ..... Deuteronomy 31:24-26 ...' And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, that Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.' Did you notice what happened here? Where were the ten commandments placed? We all know that they were placed INSIDE the ark of the testimony (ark of the covenant) See Exodus 40:20. But notice above that the 'book of the law' which contained the handwriting of ordinances (ceremonial laws) was placed BESIDE the ark, NOT inside, and notice the last few words of the above scripture ..... 'for a witness against thee.' ..... Paul confirmed in Colossians, that it was the handrwriting of ordinances THAT WERE AGAINST US, which were taken out of the way and nailed to the cross. The truth is, it was the ceremonial laws that were against us and nailed to the cross, NOT the ten commandments. And the fact that the ten commandments and the cermonial laws were placed separately apart, shows a clear distinction between the two laws.
Ten Commandments Added to What?
Another Bible verse that is used by many Christians to suggest that the ten commandments were only until Christ, is in Galatians, where it says the law was ADDED until Christ would come ..... Galatians 3:19 ...' Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made.' ..... Now have a real good think about this one. If this Bible verse from Paul includes the ten commandments, then what was it added to? There's nothing to add it to, so this doesn't make sense. But if we separate the two laws as shown earlier, then this verse begins to make a lot of sense. The 'law' in Galatians above is the ceremonial laws of Moses, written in the'book of the law', and what Paul is actually saying is that the ceremonial laws were ADDED to the ten commandments UNTIL Christ would come and take the ceremonial laws away, as they pointed to Christ Himself. Why were they added? They were added, as it confirms in Galatians above, because of transgression. What is transgression (sin)? ..... 1 John 3:4 .....'Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.' Transgression of what law? THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
This is the basic fact about the two laws. The Bible ten commandments POINTS OUT sin, and the ceremonial laws of Moses was the REMEDY for sin. The ten commandments STILL points out sin, but Jesus is now the REMEDY for that sin. The ceremonial laws have now been replaced by Christ Jesus, as He is now our sacrifice and offering to God for sin. But the moral law of God, the Bible ten commandments still stand.
Do you see this truth? The ten commandments were in effect and binding from the very beginning. As we learnt from the previous study, Cain knew that he did wrong in killing Abel, and God was able to judge Cain, because Cain knew of God's law, the ten commandments. Also, Joseph, when he was tempted by Potiphar's wife, knew that adultery was going against God's law, so he didn't do it. Now if God's ten commandments were not already binding, then how could they know what was wrong, and how could God judge them, without any law? The apostle Paul confirmed this himself ..... Romans 4:15 .....'Where there is no law, there is no transgression.' ..... Do you see that? If there was no law in place from the very beginning, then God could not judge the people for sinning against Him, because there would be no law to sin against.
"This handwriting of ordinances' our Lord did blot out, take away, and nail to His cross (Colossians 2:14). But the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments, and enforced by the prophets, He did not take away... The moral law stands on an entirely different foundation from the ceremonial or ritual law… Every part of this law must remain in force upon all mankind and in all ages." John Wesley, Sermons on Several Occasions, 2-Vol. Edition, Vol. I, pages 221-222
So just to clarify, the ten commandments were in effect from the very beginning, but the cermonial laws that were written in the book of the law by Moses, were added to the ten commandments, because of sin against God's orignial law (ten commandments). The ceremonial laws pointed to Christ, as He was the fulfillment of those laws, and He took them out of the way, nailing them to the cross. Butthe Bible ten commandments still stand today and are still binding upon God's people.
Did Jesus Abolish the Law?
Many professing Christians believe that Jesus abolished the law, God's ten commandments, on the cross at Calvary. Is this true? Well, didn't Jesus actually say Himself that He came NOT to abolish the law? Let's take a look at that Bible verse ..... Matthew 5:17 .....'Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.' ..... So Jesus confirms Himself that His job wasn't to come and abolish the law, but to fulfil. "Oh but He did fulfil the law, so we don't need to keep it." Do you ever hear Christians saying this? Do you think it yourself? Jesus fulfilled the law, so we don't have to keep it? Have you ever wondered what that word "fulfil" actually means? If you look at the original greek word for fulfil, it actually means to "fill to the top" or to "cause to abound". In other words, to bring full meaning to the law, or to exhalt it! Now for clarity, let's reword that Bible verse with the new meaning ..... 'Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to BRING FULL MEANING TO IT AND EXALT IT.' ..... The prophet Isaiah pointed to this in Isaiah 42:21 .....'The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.'
Romans 3:31 .....'Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.'
Now does that sound like Jesus abolished the law? Of course not. Christ Jesus, in no way, came to abolish the law. He came to give His life for us as a ransom, because as Paul confirmed in Romans 6:23 .....'For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.'..... But Jesus also came to show us the true meaning of the law, the ten commandments. He came to help us understand the spirit of the law, as the Jews only really understood the law in a physical way. Now many Christians will say that they keep the "spirit" of the law, not the "letter" of the law. Well, what law are we keeping in spirit? The Bible Ten Commandments!
"I cannot spare the law one moment, no more than I can spare Christ.. each is continually sending me to the other.. the law to Christ, and Christ to the law.. the height and depth of the law constrain me to fly to the love of God in Christ.. the love of God in Christ endears the law to me.. above gold or precious stones;" - (John Wesley, The Original, Nature, Property, and Use of the Law. IV.7)
Think about this for a moment; If God could have abolished His moral law, the ten commandments, or even changed it in any way, then surely Jesus did not need to come and die for us. Why? Because God could have just taken away the law, and we would no longer be under the law, and guilty of it. But God could not do this, because His law, the ten commandments, reveals His character. The ten commandments is a law of love, the first four being concerned with loving God, and the last six are to do with loving each other. Think about it, why would Jesus want to abolish a law that is based on love, which the ten commandments are?
Doesn't Paul say the Law is Abolished?
A Bible verse that is often quoted to suggest that Jesus abolished the law, is Ephesians 2:15 .....'Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances.' ..... Doesn't this verse clearly say that the law, the ten commandments have been abolished? No. Because here, Paul is not talking about the ten commandments, he's talking about the ceremonial laws of Moses. The commands contained in ordinances are the laws written in the book of the law by Moses, not the ten commandments written on stone by the finger of God Himself. Also, if you take a look at the context of Ephesians 2, you will see that Paul is talking about circumcision, which was one of the laws "contained in ordinances".
Now take a look at the word "enmity" in Ephesians above. That word means hatred, dislike, repugnance. So Jesus abolished in His flesh, the hatred, dislike, repugnance. What was it that God had such a dislike for? Was it His ten commandments, the law of love? No. Take a look at the following verses:
Psalm 40:6 .....'Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required'
Psalm 51:16 .....'For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering'
Do you see this truth? God did not desire sacrifice and burnt offering, therefore He had a dislike, repugnance for it. God never intended for us to sin and for there to be a need for sacrifice. He's a loving God! To see death, even to one of those little lambs He created was repugnant to Him. But the laws contained in ordinances required such offerings and sacrifice for our sins to be wiped away. This is what Jesus abolished in His own flesh. Do you see that? Jesus, in His own flesh, abolished the need for any more sacrifice, and He also abolished other ceremonial laws, like circumcision, the earthly priestly service, the ceremonial offering days etc. He did not abolish the ten commandments.
Have a good read through the first epistle of John. In it you will find many references to our love for God by keeping His commandments, because the ten commandments are all about love. If we love God and His Son Christ Jesus, we should keep the commandments. Even during the Bible end times, Jesus revealed through John, in the book of Revelation, that His true followers, His true church, would be keeping the commandments of God.
Revelation 12:17 .....'And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.'
Revelation 14:12 .....'Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.'
See Gods law in Bible prophecy or Ten Commandments in Bible Prophecy for the truth on this.
Why is satan angry with the woman (God's church)? Because they keep the commandments of God, including the 4th commandment concerning the sabbath day. And not only that, but they also keep the faith of Jesus Christ. They don't just have faith IN Jesus, they keep the faith OF Jesus. They follow in His footsteps. Did Jesus not keep the ten commandments? Yes! And His true church does the same, which is why they are called the saints in Revelation 14 above. Satan was the first to rebel against God's law, and he wants us to do the same. Unfortunately, he has deceived so many professing Christians into thinking that they need not keep the ten commandments anymore. He lied to Eve in the garden and he is lying to the world today, concerning the moral law of God. Fortunately God has given us His truth through His Word in the Bible and if we open our eyes and hearts to the truth, we will see that Jesus did not abolish the moral law, the ten commandments, rather He EXALTED them!
You can google this too!
3. I also am tired of people telling me that I cannot JUDGE according to Matthew 7:1. Excuse me, but did you leave your Bible outside and gust of wind blew Matthew 7:2-5 into the gutter so the rain could wash it into the sewer system? I am gonna post this in the KJV for all you KJVonly types, (I will get to you later):
Mat 7:2 For the way you judge others is how you will be judged — the measure with which you measure out will be used to measure to you.
Mat 7:3 Why do you see the splinter in your brother's eye but not notice the log in your own eye?
Mat 7:4 How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the splinter out of your eye,' when you have the log in your own eye?
Mat 7:5 You hypocrite! First, take the log out of your own eye; then you will see clearly, so that you can remove the splinter from your brother's eye!
You have probably heard this saying many times: “The Bible says not to judge.” Christians and non-believers both use this statement often to try to avoid exposure of wrongdoing in their lives, and yes, the Bible does say for us not to judge, but although it does say this what does it really mean? Take the statement “don’t drink and drive” for example and ask yourself what it means. Does it mean never drink anything while driving? Of course not, it means do not drink alcohol (bad drinking) and drive, but non-alcoholic drinks (good drinking) is ok. You have probably heard this saying many times: “You should not judge a book by its cover,” but what if the cover of the book reads “The Satanic Bible?” Should we make a judgment about the Satanic Bible or should we open the book to investigate? The answer is obvious. We should avoid this book because of the warning sign written on the cover. If we are unsure of a warning sign we should approach the situation with extreme caution. For example, if we drive down an unfamiliar road and see a sign that reads “Dangerous Curve,” we do not usually turn around and go home; instead we approach the curve with caution. If we are unable to determine whether something is safe or unsafe, it is safer to avoid the situation. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 NIV says: “Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.” King James Version of this same verse passage says: “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil.” So we definitely should judge all things (movies, books, music, and behavior of people).
When the Bible says not to judge it is talking about the bad type of judging. So in order not to practice the bad kind of judging, we must understand the two types of judging.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is valuable for teaching the truth, convicting of sin, correcting faults and training in right living;
2Ti 3:17 thus anyone who belongs to God may be fully equipped for every good work. (CJB)
2Ti 4:2 proclaim the Word! Be on hand with it whether the time seems right or not. Convict, censure and exhort with unfailing patience and with teaching.
Notice that in this verse we are told to rebuke and encourage; so we should not correct if we do not encourage.
2Ti 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not have patience for sound teaching, but will cater to their passions and gather around themselves teachers who say whatever their ears itch to hear.
Tit 2:15 These are the things you should say. Encourage and rebuke with full authority; don't let anyone look down on you.
Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the deeds produced by darkness, but instead expose them,
1Co 2:15 But the person who has the Spirit can evaluate everything, while no one is in a position to evaluate him.
1Co 2:16 For who has known the mind of Adonai? Who will counsel him? But we have the mind of the Messiah!
So, believers should judge all matters and issues.
1Jn 4:1 Dear friends, don't trust every spirit. On the contrary, test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Paul, who wrote most of the New Testament, judged someone in the church. See 1 Corinthians 5:1-13. Then see 2 Corinthians 2:5-11 to see where Paul encourages the church to forgive the person.
Again, you can google this as well. (Mad yet?)
END OF PART ONE
Note: All this information I have collected from a variety of sources over 28 years mainly for my own personal use and I never thought about reposting it anywhere. I DO NOT CLAIM OWNERSHIP OR AUTHORSHIP! If you know the authors or have links, please provide it so I may give them credit. Please do not post this any of this anywhere else unless you know where all of it came from because plagerism is a sin too. I put it here only to share what I have studied on during my Christian walk in order to helps others.
Funny, over 28 years I gathered this and all of it agrees with Messianicism. I have only been Messianic for about a 9 months. Hmm
PART ONE
1. Yahweh gave us 7 festivals to observe. They are the holiest of holidays for the Hebroots Christian. There is no need to follow any other celebrations and traditions created by mankind. Many are based in paganism or foolish explanations, (Groundhog Day). I can honestly say that any holiday is pagan if King Constantine or the Roman Church had anything to do with it AND they have somehow hindged it to Yahweh's word or anything perceived to be holy by Yah's laws or ordinances. What I have learned is that many will be harshly critical of me because I refuse to do Christmas, Easter, Halloween or any other of man's celebrations. They will never give in on their insistance that all Christians should celebrate these days no matter how much I explain where they came from. So I state my personal belief's and let the chips fall where they may. You are 'Protestants" are you not? That means you protest everything the RCC stood for, their doctrines and belief's, (Unless they have changed the definition of Protestant now). Well, WHY ARE YOU DOING CHRISTMAS AND EASTER WHEN THE RCC ESTABLISHED THEM??? If your reading this, you have a computer, google it!
2. I observe all Ten Commandments, not Nine like 97% of Christianity does. If you 97% wish to ignore the 4th commandment and cut and paste verses and word wrangle in order to ignore the true Sabbath, have fun and good luck with that as that is all you have. I really don't understand what all the arguing is about anyway. Yahweh said to OBSERVE and KEEP the Sabbath the same way He did at creation. Again, your are a protestant right? Constantine and the RCC established the Lords day on Sunday, who are you following here? You think that if you Change the name from 'Sabbath' to the 'Lord's Day', that you can pick any day of the week to observe it. I am tired of trying to convince those who do not have ears to hear.
Under Grace not Under Law
I'm under grace now, I'm no longer under the law, so I don't need to keep God's law, the ten commandments.
This is the most popular phrase I keep hearing with regards to the law of God, and keeping the Bible ten commandments. But what is the truth about being under grace and not under the law? Those professing Christians who claim that we no longer need to keep the law of God, ie, the ten commandments, often quote certain verses from the apostle Paul. One of the most popular verses being in Romans 6:14 ..... 'For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.' ..... The problem is that the majority of Christians stop right there and ignore the very next verse which says .....'What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.' ..... Paul could not be any clearer. Does being under grace give us a licence to carry on in sin? GOD FORBID!! Does being under grace mean we can now commit idolatry, adultery, covet, steal, lie, murder? Of course not! Therefore the Bible ten commandments must still be binding upon every living being. Just think for a moment about the cost of sin. Think about what Christ Jesus went through for you because of your sin. Paul confirmed in the strongest language he could say, that being under grace DOES NOT give us licence to carry on living a sinful life and ignore the law of God. So what does this mean? Well, if being under grace does not give us licence to sin, then it means that we must NOT sin, and therefore KEEP the ten commandments, the divine law of God. Do you see that? We are either allowed to carry on sinning under grace, or we are not. And Paul confirms that we are NOT allowed to carry on in sin under grace.
It's interesting that the Christians who proclaim the ten commandments to be abolished always quote the apostle Paul's writings. But the apostle Peter says in 2 Peter 3:15-16 that things Paul wrote about are hard to understand. And this is true if you take what Paul said about the law at face value, because Paul "seems" to suggest that we are no longer under the law of God (the ten commandments) whereas other scripture verses clearly say that we SHOULD still keep the ten commandments. Confusing? But if you are learned in Bible scripture then you will understand that Paul when referring to not being under the law, is not talking about the ten commandments.
If we take in the WHOLE council of the New Testament, it clearly teaches us that being under grace actually demands MORE of us.
Think about it this way; Say you were found guilty of murdering someone, and the law of the land sentenced you to death. Can you "work" your way to freedom? No, because you are under the law and it demands your life. The only way you can be free, is if a judge has compassion on you and pardons you. Let's say that happens; A judge comes along and pardons you. You are now under grace and no longer under the law, which demanded your life. You are free!! Now, do you leave thinking, "I'm free!! I found grace with the judge, I'm free to go and commit more crimes, because I'm now under grace, not under the law!" Of course not. Any person with an ounce of gratitude would now go and KEEP the law the best they could. And anyway, does the law of the land now become void because you found grace from the judge? No, the law still stands. Do you see this truth with regards to being under grace, not under law?
Jesus Christ Himself even confirmed His hatred for this false teaching of being free from His law, and being able to carry on living in sin. In the book of Revelation, He reveals to John His hatred for the teachings (doctrine) of the Nicolaitanes ..... Revelation 2:15 .....'So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.' ..... And what doctrine did the Nicolaitanes teach? They taught that being under grace meant that you could carry on living in sin! Jesus Hates this teaching!
Isaiah 42:21 .....'The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.'
So what does it mean to not be under law? Well, firstly, as we learned in the previous studies, there were two laws. The divine moral law of God, the ten commandments, and the ceremonial laws that were ADDED to the ten commandments because of sin. Those ceremonial laws were taken away by Christ on the cross and we no longer need to keep those laws, as they contained sacrifices, burnt offerings, feast days etc, which pointed to Jesus, as He became our sacrifice. Another way of not being under the law is the fact that those who are in Christ Jesus are now free from the law of sin and death (Romans 8:2). What is the law of sin and death? Is it the ten commandments? Absolutely not. What is our human nature we inherit from Adam and Eve? Sin! And what is the result of sin? Death! (Romans 6:23). That is the basic law of sin and death. But those who are in Christ are now free from that law, because they are under grace, not under the law of sin and death and in Romans 6:23 Paul confirmed that Jesus came to free us from the penalty of sin, which is death. He didn't come to free us from the ten commandments, God's divine, eternal, moral law. He came to free us from sin and death.
Is the Ten Commandments a Righteous Law?
What does it mean to be UN-righteous? Take a look at what Paul said in Romans 1:29-31 .....'Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful.' ..... Look at the things that Paul is linking with unrighteousness. Are these not things which go against the ten commandments, the moral law of God? How could the saying "under grace, not under the law" mean that we no longer need to keep the ten commandments, and yet breaking the ten commandments would be classed as unrighteousness? It just doesn't make sense. And if we take a look at some other verses from Paul, we will see that being under grace DOESN'T mean we no longer need to keep the ten commandments:
Romans 6:1-2 .....'What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?' ..... Again, Paul says in the strongest language he can that being under grace does NOT give us licence to continue living in sin. How can anyone who has truly accepted Christ continue living in open willfull sin? It's not possible. Now take a look at Romans 7:22-25. You will see Paul pointing out two laws. One righteous, spiritual law, the divine moral law of God found in the ten commandments, and a law of the flesh, which is sin. Now he says that he DELIGHTS in the law of God, which he keeps in His heart, but he also sees another law warring against this spiritual law of God, and that "other" law is the law of sin and death! The law of the flesh, which is our natural fallen state inherited from Adam and Eve. And Paul thanks God for FREEING us from this law of sin and death though our Lord, Christ Jesus.
Romans 8:1-2 .....'There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death' ..... To whom is there no condemnation? To those who are IN Christ Jesus, who DO NOT walk after the flesh. What does it mean to walk after the flesh? To willfully sin, and to think there is no problem with sin! So why would it be a problem to continue living in sin? .....Romans 8:7 .....'Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.' ..... So if we continue to be "carnally minded", then we will be at war with the Spirit of God, because we are not subjecting ourselves to the law of God, the ten commandments. And what does it mean to continue to be carnally minded? ..... Romans 8:6 .....'For to be carnally minded is death.'
Romans 6:13 .....'Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.' ..... Without the sacrifice of Christ Jesus, we would have been dead in our sins. There would be no hope of the resurrection and no future for us. But now those of us who are in Christ, are "alive from the dead", which means we should yield our bodies as "instrument of righteousness". How do we yield to righteousness? By walking each day with Christ Jesus and being obedient to God's divine moral law, the ten commandments. Take a look at what Paul said about the divine moral law of God: Romans 7:12 .....'Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.' ..... The divine law of God is holy, just and good. And what did Paul say in another place? ..... Romans 12:9 .....'Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.' ..... Being under grace, we are to hate that which is evil, all sin, and CLING to what is good. What did Paul say is good and just and holy in the previous passage? The law of God!
Revelation 14:12 .....'Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.'
Yes we are under grace, but that doesn't and shouldn't stop us from keeping the law of God found in the Bible ten commandments. We are no longer under the law of sin and death, as Christ Jesus has freed us from this law, the law of the flesh. He paid the full price for our sin, but we should NEVER use His grace as an excuse to carry on living in sin. So the next time you think "Oh I'm under grace not under law", take a look at the WHOLE council of God and think on what Jesus did for you. He gave you a pardon from your death sentence. Are you now going to continue breaking the very law that put you in that death sentence in the first place? Are you going to count the love of Christ so cheaply? May God guide you into His truth about being under His grace.
Ten Commandments and Cermonial Law ONE Law?
Many Christians believe that the Bible ten commandments and the ceremonial laws of Moses are one law, and they were all nailed to the cross along with Christ Jesus. Well, let's look at that Bible verse which mentions the law being nailed to the cross ..... Colossians 2:14 .....'Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.' ..... Now does this verse include the Bible ten commandments? I don't believe it does. Why? There are two reasons why the ten commandments cannot be included in this Bible verse above, and why it is only talking about the ceremonial laws of Moses. First, it says 'blotting out the handwriting of ordinances'. Would Paul simply call the ten commandments, written by the very finger of our Almighty Creator God, 'handwriting of ordinances'? I certainly don't think so. Paul is talking here about the handwriting of ceremonial ordinances that Moses wrote in the 'book of the law', which contained the priestly services, offerings, sacrifices, monthly and yearly sabbaths etc, not the ten commandments written by the finger of God on the stone tablets.
The second and most clear evidence that Paul in Colossians 2:14 is NOT talking about the Bible Ten Commandments is the fact that he said the handwriting of ordinances "were against us". Do we know what laws were against us? Have a good think about this. Were the ten commandments against us, or just the ceremonial laws? If we take a look in the book of Deuteronomy, we can find out the truth ..... Deuteronomy 31:24-26 ...' And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, that Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.' Did you notice what happened here? Where were the ten commandments placed? We all know that they were placed INSIDE the ark of the testimony (ark of the covenant) See Exodus 40:20. But notice above that the 'book of the law' which contained the handwriting of ordinances (ceremonial laws) was placed BESIDE the ark, NOT inside, and notice the last few words of the above scripture ..... 'for a witness against thee.' ..... Paul confirmed in Colossians, that it was the handrwriting of ordinances THAT WERE AGAINST US, which were taken out of the way and nailed to the cross. The truth is, it was the ceremonial laws that were against us and nailed to the cross, NOT the ten commandments. And the fact that the ten commandments and the cermonial laws were placed separately apart, shows a clear distinction between the two laws.
Ten Commandments Added to What?
Another Bible verse that is used by many Christians to suggest that the ten commandments were only until Christ, is in Galatians, where it says the law was ADDED until Christ would come ..... Galatians 3:19 ...' Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made.' ..... Now have a real good think about this one. If this Bible verse from Paul includes the ten commandments, then what was it added to? There's nothing to add it to, so this doesn't make sense. But if we separate the two laws as shown earlier, then this verse begins to make a lot of sense. The 'law' in Galatians above is the ceremonial laws of Moses, written in the'book of the law', and what Paul is actually saying is that the ceremonial laws were ADDED to the ten commandments UNTIL Christ would come and take the ceremonial laws away, as they pointed to Christ Himself. Why were they added? They were added, as it confirms in Galatians above, because of transgression. What is transgression (sin)? ..... 1 John 3:4 .....'Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.' Transgression of what law? THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
This is the basic fact about the two laws. The Bible ten commandments POINTS OUT sin, and the ceremonial laws of Moses was the REMEDY for sin. The ten commandments STILL points out sin, but Jesus is now the REMEDY for that sin. The ceremonial laws have now been replaced by Christ Jesus, as He is now our sacrifice and offering to God for sin. But the moral law of God, the Bible ten commandments still stand.
Do you see this truth? The ten commandments were in effect and binding from the very beginning. As we learnt from the previous study, Cain knew that he did wrong in killing Abel, and God was able to judge Cain, because Cain knew of God's law, the ten commandments. Also, Joseph, when he was tempted by Potiphar's wife, knew that adultery was going against God's law, so he didn't do it. Now if God's ten commandments were not already binding, then how could they know what was wrong, and how could God judge them, without any law? The apostle Paul confirmed this himself ..... Romans 4:15 .....'Where there is no law, there is no transgression.' ..... Do you see that? If there was no law in place from the very beginning, then God could not judge the people for sinning against Him, because there would be no law to sin against.
"This handwriting of ordinances' our Lord did blot out, take away, and nail to His cross (Colossians 2:14). But the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments, and enforced by the prophets, He did not take away... The moral law stands on an entirely different foundation from the ceremonial or ritual law… Every part of this law must remain in force upon all mankind and in all ages." John Wesley, Sermons on Several Occasions, 2-Vol. Edition, Vol. I, pages 221-222
So just to clarify, the ten commandments were in effect from the very beginning, but the cermonial laws that were written in the book of the law by Moses, were added to the ten commandments, because of sin against God's orignial law (ten commandments). The ceremonial laws pointed to Christ, as He was the fulfillment of those laws, and He took them out of the way, nailing them to the cross. Butthe Bible ten commandments still stand today and are still binding upon God's people.
Did Jesus Abolish the Law?
Many professing Christians believe that Jesus abolished the law, God's ten commandments, on the cross at Calvary. Is this true? Well, didn't Jesus actually say Himself that He came NOT to abolish the law? Let's take a look at that Bible verse ..... Matthew 5:17 .....'Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.' ..... So Jesus confirms Himself that His job wasn't to come and abolish the law, but to fulfil. "Oh but He did fulfil the law, so we don't need to keep it." Do you ever hear Christians saying this? Do you think it yourself? Jesus fulfilled the law, so we don't have to keep it? Have you ever wondered what that word "fulfil" actually means? If you look at the original greek word for fulfil, it actually means to "fill to the top" or to "cause to abound". In other words, to bring full meaning to the law, or to exhalt it! Now for clarity, let's reword that Bible verse with the new meaning ..... 'Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to BRING FULL MEANING TO IT AND EXALT IT.' ..... The prophet Isaiah pointed to this in Isaiah 42:21 .....'The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.'
Romans 3:31 .....'Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.'
Now does that sound like Jesus abolished the law? Of course not. Christ Jesus, in no way, came to abolish the law. He came to give His life for us as a ransom, because as Paul confirmed in Romans 6:23 .....'For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.'..... But Jesus also came to show us the true meaning of the law, the ten commandments. He came to help us understand the spirit of the law, as the Jews only really understood the law in a physical way. Now many Christians will say that they keep the "spirit" of the law, not the "letter" of the law. Well, what law are we keeping in spirit? The Bible Ten Commandments!
"I cannot spare the law one moment, no more than I can spare Christ.. each is continually sending me to the other.. the law to Christ, and Christ to the law.. the height and depth of the law constrain me to fly to the love of God in Christ.. the love of God in Christ endears the law to me.. above gold or precious stones;" - (John Wesley, The Original, Nature, Property, and Use of the Law. IV.7)
Think about this for a moment; If God could have abolished His moral law, the ten commandments, or even changed it in any way, then surely Jesus did not need to come and die for us. Why? Because God could have just taken away the law, and we would no longer be under the law, and guilty of it. But God could not do this, because His law, the ten commandments, reveals His character. The ten commandments is a law of love, the first four being concerned with loving God, and the last six are to do with loving each other. Think about it, why would Jesus want to abolish a law that is based on love, which the ten commandments are?
Doesn't Paul say the Law is Abolished?
A Bible verse that is often quoted to suggest that Jesus abolished the law, is Ephesians 2:15 .....'Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances.' ..... Doesn't this verse clearly say that the law, the ten commandments have been abolished? No. Because here, Paul is not talking about the ten commandments, he's talking about the ceremonial laws of Moses. The commands contained in ordinances are the laws written in the book of the law by Moses, not the ten commandments written on stone by the finger of God Himself. Also, if you take a look at the context of Ephesians 2, you will see that Paul is talking about circumcision, which was one of the laws "contained in ordinances".
Now take a look at the word "enmity" in Ephesians above. That word means hatred, dislike, repugnance. So Jesus abolished in His flesh, the hatred, dislike, repugnance. What was it that God had such a dislike for? Was it His ten commandments, the law of love? No. Take a look at the following verses:
Psalm 40:6 .....'Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required'
Psalm 51:16 .....'For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering'
Do you see this truth? God did not desire sacrifice and burnt offering, therefore He had a dislike, repugnance for it. God never intended for us to sin and for there to be a need for sacrifice. He's a loving God! To see death, even to one of those little lambs He created was repugnant to Him. But the laws contained in ordinances required such offerings and sacrifice for our sins to be wiped away. This is what Jesus abolished in His own flesh. Do you see that? Jesus, in His own flesh, abolished the need for any more sacrifice, and He also abolished other ceremonial laws, like circumcision, the earthly priestly service, the ceremonial offering days etc. He did not abolish the ten commandments.
Have a good read through the first epistle of John. In it you will find many references to our love for God by keeping His commandments, because the ten commandments are all about love. If we love God and His Son Christ Jesus, we should keep the commandments. Even during the Bible end times, Jesus revealed through John, in the book of Revelation, that His true followers, His true church, would be keeping the commandments of God.
Revelation 12:17 .....'And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.'
Revelation 14:12 .....'Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.'
See Gods law in Bible prophecy or Ten Commandments in Bible Prophecy for the truth on this.
Why is satan angry with the woman (God's church)? Because they keep the commandments of God, including the 4th commandment concerning the sabbath day. And not only that, but they also keep the faith of Jesus Christ. They don't just have faith IN Jesus, they keep the faith OF Jesus. They follow in His footsteps. Did Jesus not keep the ten commandments? Yes! And His true church does the same, which is why they are called the saints in Revelation 14 above. Satan was the first to rebel against God's law, and he wants us to do the same. Unfortunately, he has deceived so many professing Christians into thinking that they need not keep the ten commandments anymore. He lied to Eve in the garden and he is lying to the world today, concerning the moral law of God. Fortunately God has given us His truth through His Word in the Bible and if we open our eyes and hearts to the truth, we will see that Jesus did not abolish the moral law, the ten commandments, rather He EXALTED them!
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3. I also am tired of people telling me that I cannot JUDGE according to Matthew 7:1. Excuse me, but did you leave your Bible outside and gust of wind blew Matthew 7:2-5 into the gutter so the rain could wash it into the sewer system? I am gonna post this in the KJV for all you KJVonly types, (I will get to you later):
Mat 7:2 For the way you judge others is how you will be judged — the measure with which you measure out will be used to measure to you.
Mat 7:3 Why do you see the splinter in your brother's eye but not notice the log in your own eye?
Mat 7:4 How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the splinter out of your eye,' when you have the log in your own eye?
Mat 7:5 You hypocrite! First, take the log out of your own eye; then you will see clearly, so that you can remove the splinter from your brother's eye!
You have probably heard this saying many times: “The Bible says not to judge.” Christians and non-believers both use this statement often to try to avoid exposure of wrongdoing in their lives, and yes, the Bible does say for us not to judge, but although it does say this what does it really mean? Take the statement “don’t drink and drive” for example and ask yourself what it means. Does it mean never drink anything while driving? Of course not, it means do not drink alcohol (bad drinking) and drive, but non-alcoholic drinks (good drinking) is ok. You have probably heard this saying many times: “You should not judge a book by its cover,” but what if the cover of the book reads “The Satanic Bible?” Should we make a judgment about the Satanic Bible or should we open the book to investigate? The answer is obvious. We should avoid this book because of the warning sign written on the cover. If we are unsure of a warning sign we should approach the situation with extreme caution. For example, if we drive down an unfamiliar road and see a sign that reads “Dangerous Curve,” we do not usually turn around and go home; instead we approach the curve with caution. If we are unable to determine whether something is safe or unsafe, it is safer to avoid the situation. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 NIV says: “Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.” King James Version of this same verse passage says: “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil.” So we definitely should judge all things (movies, books, music, and behavior of people).
When the Bible says not to judge it is talking about the bad type of judging. So in order not to practice the bad kind of judging, we must understand the two types of judging.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is valuable for teaching the truth, convicting of sin, correcting faults and training in right living;
2Ti 3:17 thus anyone who belongs to God may be fully equipped for every good work. (CJB)
2Ti 4:2 proclaim the Word! Be on hand with it whether the time seems right or not. Convict, censure and exhort with unfailing patience and with teaching.
Notice that in this verse we are told to rebuke and encourage; so we should not correct if we do not encourage.
2Ti 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not have patience for sound teaching, but will cater to their passions and gather around themselves teachers who say whatever their ears itch to hear.
Tit 2:15 These are the things you should say. Encourage and rebuke with full authority; don't let anyone look down on you.
Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the deeds produced by darkness, but instead expose them,
1Co 2:15 But the person who has the Spirit can evaluate everything, while no one is in a position to evaluate him.
1Co 2:16 For who has known the mind of Adonai? Who will counsel him? But we have the mind of the Messiah!
So, believers should judge all matters and issues.
1Jn 4:1 Dear friends, don't trust every spirit. On the contrary, test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Paul, who wrote most of the New Testament, judged someone in the church. See 1 Corinthians 5:1-13. Then see 2 Corinthians 2:5-11 to see where Paul encourages the church to forgive the person.
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END OF PART ONE
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Funny, over 28 years I gathered this and all of it agrees with Messianicism. I have only been Messianic for about a 9 months. Hmm